FWIW, Call on Pope Leo XIV to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing, and end the starvation. Let him go to Gaza and stand with the suffering people who are being massacred by Israel and the Western posers. He can go to Gaza right now, and insist aid be allowed in. Then on to the West Bank to end the occupation and apartheid.
Is there anything more important in today's world than this?
Thanks for covering this. I am no expert on Canon Law, but I think excommunications tend to be focused on people who are misleading people about what the Church teaches, not just failing to live up to Church teaching. You might contact Dr. E Michael Jones for his commentary on the topic of excommunications for genocidal war criminals.
I recommend people learn more about how the media targets the Catholic Church in a similar way to Palestinians, Muslims, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi and others they seek to silence. Very instructive is the reporting by David F Pierre about how the Boston Globe wrote their own role in facilitating child abuse in the 70's and 80's out of the story and then were rewarded for doing it with an award winning Hollywood picture cementing in their framing of the story.
David F Pierre Jr on clergy abuse scandal in Boston
Have faith. As dark as these current events are, truth is getting around more than it has in decades. As Christ said, the truth shall set us free. On top of that, there were record numbers of Catholic confirmations this year and more and more Catholics are overcoming the coercion to keep faith a private matter as we see the tragic place that secularism leads to - a society run by sociopaths just like the Catholic Church warned in 1890.
"Why Doesn't the Pope Excommunicate Genocidal Maniacs?"
So G** damn obvious a question I'm embarrassed it hadn't occurred to me so much longer to have posed. Then again, the Catholic Church among virtually every other institution and country on earth in its actions,or lack thereof, since Oct. 7th. Save tiny, impoverished Yemen. Why doesn't this country send military aid to that country to do the right thing - take UN-approved action against a genocidal state, e.g., stop supplies going to it - if we won't do so with our (blunted) "tip of the spear" multibillion dollar aircraft carriers Tom Cruise-ing about the Mediterranean and Red Seas and Persian Gulf?
And imagine the impact if all three evening newscasts of ABC, CBS, and NBC were simultaneously to begin with "Breaking news tonight, major developments, President Trump, Vice President Vance, and Secy of State Rubio now all out of the Catholic Church President Trump responds with major sanctions against the Vatican and orders the Pentagon to drop up war plans against the Swiss Guard." Some impact I would imagine.
There are so many cases from the top of society to we the people where those who can do something, don't. Other than the majority of Israelis is there a human being in the world that doesn't look upon what has happened to the Gazans with disgust? At the very least anyone who lives in a democracy should be demanding their representatives speak out and act.
Instead, I can well imagine Americans who are not Jews saying something to themselves like "I don't like what Israel is doing but Shari and Howard Greenblatt down the street are friends and I know they like Israel so I wouldn't feel comfortable doing anything that would disappoint them if they found out"
The Jews of Jewish Voice for Peace do not hesitate to put their humanity above tribe. If they can do that then where the hell are the rest of Americans?
You. might like to read "Beyond Tribal Loyalties: Personal Stories of Jewish Peace Activists," by Avigail Abarbanel, who ia also on Substack. The book club on Palestine is looking at this book this month, and further. Avigail is the host of the meeting.
Sam, I have a friend who is a Jew and he denounces JVP as not coming out and stating what he believes is the problem: Jewish power. He has been demonstrating against that for a couple of decades, an inspiration for my demonstrating though I don't go as far as he does. JVP inspires me because they are acting with a will. In my experience of 18 months on the street having thousands of Americans pass me in cars or on foot the most impressive thing is the indifference I see. People will deliberately look away from me as if there is danger in reading my sign. American Zionists show no fear as they curse and condemn me vigorously and vocally, longing to silence me. We are sheep. The members of JVP are not.
Timidity is rampant, I think I mentioned that my entire city council of ten people remain silent to my question to each one individually: do you stand with liberty and justice for all and against its antithesis ethnic cleansing? Not a single reply to a question, posed two years ago and again a week ago, that every American should immediately respond to eagerly. Zionism standing for a country of 9 million people has intimidated a country of 375 million into silence on the very foundation of the United States and from Congress right down to my local government and a majority of the American people. I Iike to say that the founding fathers would weep.
Performative? Quite likely. Sometimes that is the only thing one can think of to do. And surely, there are times when one must do something. Better than waiting till one is convinced they hit upon the 'perfect' action.
Plus, I think there is no way of being sure that something performative might not affect others in a positive way.
FWIW, Call on Pope Leo XIV to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing, and end the starvation. Let him go to Gaza and stand with the suffering people who are being massacred by Israel and the Western posers. He can go to Gaza right now, and insist aid be allowed in. Then on to the West Bank to end the occupation and apartheid.
Is there anything more important in today's world than this?
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Thanks for covering this. I am no expert on Canon Law, but I think excommunications tend to be focused on people who are misleading people about what the Church teaches, not just failing to live up to Church teaching. You might contact Dr. E Michael Jones for his commentary on the topic of excommunications for genocidal war criminals.
I recommend people learn more about how the media targets the Catholic Church in a similar way to Palestinians, Muslims, Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi and others they seek to silence. Very instructive is the reporting by David F Pierre about how the Boston Globe wrote their own role in facilitating child abuse in the 70's and 80's out of the story and then were rewarded for doing it with an award winning Hollywood picture cementing in their framing of the story.
David F Pierre Jr on clergy abuse scandal in Boston
https://youtu.be/rVs_FzLEW1U
https://youtu.be/fUJRvfgbQ6Y
The context provided by Sociologist (if Zionist tool, unfortunately) Bill Donohue is also worth considering.
https://youtu.be/mTT8c9EMNJY
Have faith. As dark as these current events are, truth is getting around more than it has in decades. As Christ said, the truth shall set us free. On top of that, there were record numbers of Catholic confirmations this year and more and more Catholics are overcoming the coercion to keep faith a private matter as we see the tragic place that secularism leads to - a society run by sociopaths just like the Catholic Church warned in 1890.
https://www.fidelitypress.org/book-products/la-civilt-cattolica-on-the-jewish-question-in-europe
So keep working for peace, Sam! Christ also said, Blessed are the peacemakers. God protect you always.
I **think Vance is misleading re church teaching. Will try to dig into it.
"Why Doesn't the Pope Excommunicate Genocidal Maniacs?"
So G** damn obvious a question I'm embarrassed it hadn't occurred to me so much longer to have posed. Then again, the Catholic Church among virtually every other institution and country on earth in its actions,or lack thereof, since Oct. 7th. Save tiny, impoverished Yemen. Why doesn't this country send military aid to that country to do the right thing - take UN-approved action against a genocidal state, e.g., stop supplies going to it - if we won't do so with our (blunted) "tip of the spear" multibillion dollar aircraft carriers Tom Cruise-ing about the Mediterranean and Red Seas and Persian Gulf?
And imagine the impact if all three evening newscasts of ABC, CBS, and NBC were simultaneously to begin with "Breaking news tonight, major developments, President Trump, Vice President Vance, and Secy of State Rubio now all out of the Catholic Church President Trump responds with major sanctions against the Vatican and orders the Pentagon to drop up war plans against the Swiss Guard." Some impact I would imagine.
It never occurred to me till Fr. Harak mentioned it!
There are so many cases from the top of society to we the people where those who can do something, don't. Other than the majority of Israelis is there a human being in the world that doesn't look upon what has happened to the Gazans with disgust? At the very least anyone who lives in a democracy should be demanding their representatives speak out and act.
Instead, I can well imagine Americans who are not Jews saying something to themselves like "I don't like what Israel is doing but Shari and Howard Greenblatt down the street are friends and I know they like Israel so I wouldn't feel comfortable doing anything that would disappoint them if they found out"
The Jews of Jewish Voice for Peace do not hesitate to put their humanity above tribe. If they can do that then where the hell are the rest of Americans?
You. might like to read "Beyond Tribal Loyalties: Personal Stories of Jewish Peace Activists," by Avigail Abarbanel, who ia also on Substack. The book club on Palestine is looking at this book this month, and further. Avigail is the host of the meeting.
Thanks for both of your thoughts. I think JVP has been important, but I also feel some of their actions have been performative tbh.
Sam, I have a friend who is a Jew and he denounces JVP as not coming out and stating what he believes is the problem: Jewish power. He has been demonstrating against that for a couple of decades, an inspiration for my demonstrating though I don't go as far as he does. JVP inspires me because they are acting with a will. In my experience of 18 months on the street having thousands of Americans pass me in cars or on foot the most impressive thing is the indifference I see. People will deliberately look away from me as if there is danger in reading my sign. American Zionists show no fear as they curse and condemn me vigorously and vocally, longing to silence me. We are sheep. The members of JVP are not.
Timidity is rampant, I think I mentioned that my entire city council of ten people remain silent to my question to each one individually: do you stand with liberty and justice for all and against its antithesis ethnic cleansing? Not a single reply to a question, posed two years ago and again a week ago, that every American should immediately respond to eagerly. Zionism standing for a country of 9 million people has intimidated a country of 375 million into silence on the very foundation of the United States and from Congress right down to my local government and a majority of the American people. I Iike to say that the founding fathers would weep.
Performative? Quite likely. Sometimes that is the only thing one can think of to do. And surely, there are times when one must do something. Better than waiting till one is convinced they hit upon the 'perfect' action.
Plus, I think there is no way of being sure that something performative might not affect others in a positive way.
Heat is Heat. Go after the so-called Catholics who support the ZioBeasts